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Mirror, Mirror


Today's entry is preparation work for next month's Camera Club competition. I'm embarking on another experiment here, to provide you folks with time to kick me some on whether the image works or not. Camera Club allows me to enter a total of six photos into the critique/competition: 2 in Colour, 2 in Monochrome, and 2 in Creative (Non-photo-realistic). The theme for next month is 'Mirror', looking to get both the reflecting surface and the subject reflected into the photograph.

Date: 2010-04-13 12:02 am (UTC)
neolithicsheep: (Default)
From: [personal profile] neolithicsheep
Hrm. I find it a little busy for monochrome, lacking color to separate the various bits it ends up looking kind of jumbled. If it were me (and I am no serious student of photography, and you already pretty well know where my tastes vary from yours, heh) what I would do is crop it down to tighten the focus on the mirror ball, and bump up the contrast a little to make things pop a little more.

...I've added my suggested crop on the Flickr image, in case you have a burning desire to see it! ;)

Date: 2010-04-13 12:06 am (UTC)
neolithicsheep: (Default)
From: [personal profile] neolithicsheep
Added a 2nd suggested crop, as I pondered the image a little more OH GOD I SHOULD BE IN BED.

Date: 2010-04-13 12:07 am (UTC)
neolithicsheep: (Default)
From: [personal profile] neolithicsheep
But if you use the 2nd one, you may find you need to make judicious use of your sharpen tool.

Date: 2010-04-12 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barry-king.livejournal.com
Nice overall image, very good use of texture and light. Pretty broad midtonal range, though. Can you compensate for levels, or is that verboten for this competition?

Date: 2010-04-12 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
Not verboten, and I will most likely take a look at that. Thanks.

Date: 2010-04-13 12:33 am (UTC)
jeliza: custom avatar by hexdraws (bloodgrass)
From: [personal profile] jeliza
Ditto. I would either adjust the overall contrast or do some localized dodging and burning to really lead the eye around where you want it to go; right now I *see* the pond and the ball, but then I go back to the really dark place under those big spikey grasses and stay there.

If you are really going to do some post-processing, and want the gazing ball to be the focus, I'd work with lens blur to create a version of this image with much less d-o-f.

Alternately, I'd crop the left half out.

(sorry, I guess I'm just chatty today.)

Date: 2010-04-13 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
Which direction to adjust contrast? This one is already bumped a bit to the plus side.

Date: 2010-04-13 06:27 pm (UTC)
jeliza: custom avatar by hexdraws (Default)
From: [personal profile] jeliza
Increase, yes, but possibly by compressing the midtones and expanding the shadows and highlights.
What technique are you using to increase your contrast?

Date: 2010-04-13 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
Contrast & Brightness, increase contrast (+11 IIRC), no change on brightness.

Date: 2010-04-12 11:26 pm (UTC)
ext_37422: three leds (universe)
From: [identity profile] dianavilliers.livejournal.com
I take it you want some critique, then?

One thing that I've noticed you do quite frequently is to try and stuff too much into one frame, and you're doing just that here.

You've got two reflecting surfaces (tick box for theme relevance) and quite a lot of busy (too busy perhaps, but it could possibly be persuaded to work) textures for them to be relecting. The number one problem I see here is that the ball and the pond are not relating to each other at all.

Without the ball the pond is just a pond. Pretty, reflective, but ultimately pretty meh.

The ball is by far the more interesting reflector, being that it is so totally out of place in the bush, but it's hanging in mid air and not clearly relecting what it is hanging off. I want to see it touching and being touched by it's surroundings. Ideally I'd want to see it reflecting the pond the pond and vice versa.
If it were mine, I'd also try to make a whole lot of the background clutter -go away- either by choice of angle or a really shallow DOF.

JMHO, worth what you paid for it...

Date: 2010-04-13 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tassie-gal.livejournal.com
What they said about the ball and pond. That was my gut reaction - the ball needs to be on the pond so they can reflect off each other.

Date: 2010-04-13 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
Interesting you see the ball as hanging in mid-air. It is quite solidly set into rock/concrete.

Working to this theme is challenging. *G*

Date: 2010-04-13 08:59 pm (UTC)
ext_37422: three leds (Default)
From: [identity profile] dianavilliers.livejournal.com
It looks like a christmas ornament hung off that ferny thing in the extreme foreground - I see now that it's a) larger and b) further away than I originaly thought.

Date: 2010-04-13 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
Ah, but that tells me a great deal about the perspective in this. Might not be so right for the critique/competition, then.

Date: 2010-04-14 01:01 am (UTC)
ext_37422: three leds (Default)
From: [identity profile] dianavilliers.livejournal.com
Yeesss. I think you've got a set of good ideas here that haven't quite worked together. I know that happens to me rather more often than I would like.

Date: 2010-04-12 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firesmithsghost.livejournal.com
uh, hmmmm, I can't even try to add a comments like the others but I do like the photo.

Date: 2010-04-14 08:52 am (UTC)
ext_33729: Full-face head shot of my beautiful, beautiful Tink, who is a fawn Doberman. (Default)
From: [identity profile] slave2tehtink.livejournal.com
I see that everyone said the same thing here that I did on DW! I feel better now, knowing it was not just me.

Date: 2010-04-14 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
It's not just you. *G*

Posted the colour version today.

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