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We are down another goat. I saw the carcass this morning on my way out to work, and Herself confirms it is a canid kill. This one isn't eaten at all, which is leaning us to think that we've got neighbor dog problems again. It's an old and ongoing story for us, an ugly one too. One neighbor who doesn't believe in keeping his dogs in control, and who's response to Herself years back to a request to do so to avoid livestock kills was, "You live in the country now. Things like that happen." The dogs are just doing what their genes tell them to do, something which our dogs do as well, though under control and with training so they don't hurt the livestock, they only herd the livestock. But the dogs lose in this equation, because the owner can't be dealt with the same way.

This same owner and I had a direct discussion; that discussion followed a visit on another occasion when the Alachua County Sherriff deputy explained, and had them read, the appropriate portion of the FL legal code, that a dog attacking livestock can be destroyed by the livestock owner. Said owner stated he didn't want any trouble. I explained to him that I don't either, and for me trouble starts when someone lets their dogs loose after my livestock, since they represent dollars, not pets. So some dog killing livestock is the same as stealing from me.

Fine. We live in the country now. Dog may not come home one day. Things like that happen, too.

Date: 2006-07-24 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wedschilde.livejournal.com
can you call the humane society and lodge a complaint? that poor dog is being abused with lack of guidance! bad owner! bad!

Date: 2006-07-24 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
Out where we are at there are two factors involved.

1: We live in different counties. The property boundary is also the county line. Neighbor Owner is in a different juridiction; hence, different Animal Control & humane society.

2: Animal Control will happly supply a loaner live trap for a period of time; Animal Control will not spend the time in our rural area to deal with problem animals.

Date: 2006-07-24 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wedschilde.livejournal.com
hm. perhaps you need to lure the dog in, capture it and find it a good home? :::: wicked grins ::::

Date: 2006-07-24 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
Tell that to my cousin. She's dead.

Date: 2006-07-24 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wedschilde.livejournal.com
i know. and i feel bad about that. and it's all the owners' fault. bad humans. with the animal, comes responsibility. that human should take better care of his charges... so no one gets hurt.

Date: 2006-07-24 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
That human's been a frequent guest of the ACSherriff for DUI & Drunk & Disorderly & et cetera. The rest of the family is OK.

It's just plain an ugly, wasteful situation.

Date: 2006-07-24 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wedschilde.livejournal.com
oh sheesh. that poor family. it's always sad when there is one person that just ruins life. sheesh.

Date: 2006-07-25 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jehannamama.livejournal.com
So true. For everyone...

Date: 2006-07-24 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fatfred.livejournal.com
New toppers for the fence posts.

Date: 2006-07-24 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jehannamama.livejournal.com
Yeah, well where I lived, if a dog harassed stock, the owners were given one warning and a possible fine. If any stock or any pet or person was injured, they got a bullet and the owner got a fine. That's just how it is in the country. Really.

The guy is clueless.

Poor dog.

Poorer goat.

Date: 2006-07-24 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
Yup, that's pretty much a good summary of what the AC Sherriff Deputy said to him. He'd called the sherriff. Wanted me arrested.

'Magine that.

Date: 2006-07-24 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com
Entitlement whores are not restricted to the upper ecomonic classes.

Date: 2006-07-24 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tx-cronopio.livejournal.com
Oh, dear. Ironic that this happened just after you discussed this on LJ a few days ago. Of course, you have no option, you have to protect your livestock. Stupid, stupid owner.

Date: 2006-07-24 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quietdarkness.livejournal.com
Heck, call the humane society in the neighboring county and lodge a complaint. What are they going to do? Refuse to investigate because you live in another county? Is Florida that screwed up that two juridictions can't work together?

Date: 2006-07-25 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zompus.livejournal.com
You want us to mess da dog up for ya, boss?

Date: 2006-07-25 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madshutterbug.livejournal.com
If any dog, other than the BorderCollie Bros, comes over on your side? Stomp 'em. The BorderCollie Bros you gotta listen to.

Date: 2006-07-25 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zompus.livejournal.com
Moooooooo.

Date: 2006-07-26 01:15 am (UTC)

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